(Of course, that ruling's not because that's an accurate assessment of the weight/volume mismatch that's occurring here but because that ruling's playable and convenient likewise, this convenience extends to matching the official statistics of the hip flask rather than the more massive 3-cp, 1.5-lbs.-when-it's-empty, full-on I-don't-even flask (empty) that Pathfinder inherited from D&D 3.5e that I imagine is about as subtle as this.) (Although not within so easy reach as to be able to be drawn quickly… sigh.) Further, bear in mind that cumbersome flasks like these would be, for example, ( ahem) largely impossible to conceal using the skill Sleight of Hand as the GM's ruled they're Small objects.Īll that said, because this player and GM isn't a scientist, he has always imagined-and played-that the alchemist's fire (flask) and similar items are closest to a hip flask (rather than, for example, a laboratory flask), and those- tells me-tend to average a capacity of 8 oz., making it so that-in this GM's settings, anyway-the typical 1-lb.
#ALCHEMIST FIRE 5E VALUE PC#
This player-who, to be fair, is not well-versed in fluid mechanics, glassblowing, nor alchemy-wouldn't flip the table and storm out of the campaign of a GM who made such a ruling, but this player would find such a ruling severely stretching his limited imagination-especially if his PC had been until this point-somehow!-carrying on his person and within easy reach 10 or so of these unwieldy-yet-still-1-lb. and that contains "a mix of several volatile liquids that ignite when exposed to air" that weighs but 1 oz. This GM rules that flasks of alchemist's fire and similar items are closer to darts and shuriken than to nets and javelins so in his campaigns things like this are light weapons, but ask your GM.)Īnd with this in mind it becomes possible for a GM to go to the extreme edge of all these rules and say that an alchemist's fire (flask) is a 4-ft.-tall flask that weighs 15 oz. That makes an alchemist's fire flask's equivalent creature size category either Small (therefore 2-4 ft.) or Diminutive (therefore 1–2 ft.), but those seem awfully big to this reader, and size categories are approximations anyway. As per Weapons on Weapon Size, a reader could assume that an alchemist's fire flask is either a light weapon or a 1-handed weapon for the purposes of throwing while two-weapon fighting.
That is, the rules say that an alchemist's fire (flask) weighs 1 lb., and that's all the game really says about what could possibly be a flask of alchemist's fire's volume. This makes computing the flask's volume from its listed weight problematic. For convenience, Pathfinder likes to measure in pounds whenever it can, using cubic feet when it must and liquid measures only by necessity. There can still be controversy, though, if you want it. Potions, it should also be noted, typically have no relationship to items created using the skill Craft (alchemy). The stoppered container is usually no more than 1 inch wide and 2 inches high." The typical vial for ink and potions, by the way, has negligible weight. I think that the GM may be conflating the alchemist's fire (flask) with a magic potion's Physical Description that, in part, says, "A typical potion or oil consists of 1 ounce of liquid held in a ceramic or glass vial fitted with a tight stopper. This also suggests that the error in the weight of an empty flask is due to a misplaced zero - it has been recorded as 1.5 lb instead of 0.15 lb.Īssume that the same flasks are used for alchemists fire and acid it means that you are delivering about 0.85 lb (13.6 oz) of those substances in each 1 lb flask. So 1 pint of oil weighs about 0.85 lb and the flask weighs 0.15 lb. I would suggest working with the value for Oil given that it makes sense and we have both weight and volume - while we do not know the details of "oil" in Pathfinder, a density of 0.8-0.9 is a reasonable assumption. The sensible conclusion is that there is a mistake in the weight of empty flasks. (I say magically because 1 pint of hydrogen would not give 1/2 lb of buoyancy in air.)
The logical conclusion is that oil, acid and alchemists fire are all magically lighter than air and make a flask weigh 1/2 lb less than it would otherwise.
Looking at Table 6-9 Goods and Services in the Core Rulebook we can see that:
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